I’m very disappointed to see an actually important topic being shelved because someone is unwilling to hit the copy button and share the truth.

Nevermore,

Eric

No I dont think it ever will be made as a streaming video. Over a year ago my computer fried along with much of the film. I can sill produce the DVD as that portion of the film survived. So unless you order the DVD you cannot see it. As I told you before, the full script of the film is on my website along with alot more for free. Also there are two very long previews on Pot TV under enteogens 101. That is about all I can do for you.

Cheers

Terry

Two years have come and gone and I still wish to see the truth on here. Maybe I sound cheap (it’s because I don’t/can’t order things online), but I can walk into ANY other church around here and get free pamphlets, videos, bibles and much more about their beliefs…as wrong as they may be.

…I thought the truth would be set free?

No problem. If you have to get rid of that stuff (incuding my comments on the matter) as part of spam removal you’re not going to hurt my feelings.

I’ll try and keep an eye peeled and an ear to the ground for that episode of Secrets of the Bible.

Cheers, Goud bless and One louv,
Joshua

Feel free to copy and use this blessing anywhere you should.

ברוך אתה יהוה אלוהינו מלך העולם בורא פרח קנה־בשם העץ חיים

Blessed are you who are God sovereign of the universe who makes cannabis the tree of life

I have recently been told that portions of my film were just played on TBN in “Ancient Secrets of the Bible” I have not seen it, and it was used without my permissions. I guess someone out there has been checking it out. I bet the kaneh bosem potions were omitted. I would love to see it but I do not know which episode used it and I am not going to buy all 20 or more episodes of it to find it. Too bad they didnt just have the guts to interview me. But then they really are not after the truth, are they? If they were I guess it would have been shown there already.

Cheers

Brother Terry

!אבר המש אהי ,ןמאָ
Omeyn, yehey shmey rabo!

Amen, let Goud’s great name be blessed!

One louv,
Joshua

I found the Babel fish translator. It’s altavista and I’ll post the link after this post. The bad news is that it appears to be an advertisement.

One louv,
Joshua

from babelfish
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My Russian isn’t that good, but below is what I’ve tried to do so far and I’ll print it out to see if I can get any further with it. I’ve got a couple other big projects with deadlines so it might be slow going, but I’ll see what I can do. There used to be a good free babelfish translation program on line a couple of years ago, but I wasn’t able to find it again when I looked for it recently.

One louv,
Joshua

Kind seasons greetings(maybe), forum site freeanointing.org

Please answer my brief questions….

-what program skill automatic mailbox to register on mail ru[/b] and {how?}many other postcodes?
-what program skill automatic to send out on mamba.ru and loveplanet.ru[/b] on task parameters (it says for comp. default option, and I don’t know anything about computer language even in English),……. It kind of looks kie spam, but I’ll keep going.

I sure wish I understood what you are saying. Looks Russian but I am not sure. Maybe someone out there has a translator program. I will really be disappointed if this is just spam. Anyway cheers all.

God Bless

Brother Terry

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- какая программа умеет [b]автоматически за НЕСКОЛЬКО СЕКУНД регистрировать ящики на mail.ru[/b] и многих других почтовиках?
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- а также сможет разослать по форумам текст (например) “где купить валенки?”, а потом в ответ на этот текст ОТ ДРУГОГО имени и IP написать (например) “только на сайте megavalenki.ru!”?
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Blessed are you who are God, sovereign of the universe and creator of cannabis the tree of life.

Cheers

Brother Terry

You are perhaps one of my favorite friends here. I hear your comments and you are in this fight. I respect that. But what is going on here is far more important than a simple legal battle. We are talking about the Holy Oil of God!!!!!! We are talking about the fulfillment of prophesy. We can decide here which direction we will go. Is it a legal battle????? Or is this a fundamental human right to be a Christian????

I guess I have hoped that a simple legal battle would resolve this. But it wont. You have to change the hearts of men and women on this. When they seek the truth they will change it all. It is the information and truth of the matter that will produce change.

Til then I am proud to be an anointed.

Cheers

Brother Terry

I would say that there is a really strong religious claim to be made here in the United States (with perhaps the exception of India where Cannabis leaves have been exempted from international laws and treaties for religious reasons, I would say maybe the strongest on Earth), but that it is verry difficult to make and to understand how to do it you pretty much have to become a legal and constitutional scholar. We are waiting for the Eighth Circuit Court of Appels to come back with a decision on Carl Olsen’s case and it should be coming back any time now. As you say, the Lord allmighty is opposed by anti-christ, as are we who choose to hear the Lord’s voice in all of its louv and compassion.

I frequently come here to see if there are any new posts.

One louv and Goud Bless you our precious Brother,
Joshua

I am not sure what either of you are trying to say in this discussion. Perhaps you could enlighten me on how these comments relate to this discussion????? This is a serious discussion on the Bible, the Fire Baptism, and the Holy Oil. I live in the United States of America. Though it is basically not permitted to make a religious use case here on the Holy Oil, there is still the right to freedom of speech. That is all I am doing here.

In 2 years I have not found anyone willing or able to debate it with any level of knowlege. Why is that???? Are we afraid to simply discuss it???? Is it too much to discuss the fact that there is 6 pounds of marijuana in the Holy Oil as described in Exodus???? Jesus and the desciples used this very oil for anointing and healing. Yet making a full batch of the Holy Oil could send you to 30 or more years in prison in many places including here. Does anyone here understand the meaning of anti-christ?????

Hey, if you deny the Holy Oil then you deny the title Christ for Jesus and the title christian for youselves.

But thanks for your comments.

Cheers

Brother Terry

Thanks for joining in. The website and the film looks at the Holy Oil as described in 30:23. This discussion discusses the change of the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday which they call the day of the Lord. To understand this you would need to understand everything discussed above.

To Geoff: Thanks for joining in.

Cheers

Brother Terry

Thank you for your post. I do not supply the Holy oil. I did make a small amount when I was doing the film for my family and friends for the anointing, and for some, the complete Fire Baptism. I have detailed how to make it in these blogs. Be careful to check your local countries laws. I see no reason why a smaller amount cannot be made as compaired with the 6 pounds as described in Exodus. Some disagree with that. But I have seen no Christian Text where making a smaller amount is forbidden.

As to the free anointing oil, this is misunderstood appearently. What I am doing here is to make the statement that making the Holy Oil of God is Illegal nearly Globally. I am simply demanding that the Governments of the World free the Holy Oil of God. As is on my banner, on my front page, I state: Working to return the Holy Oil of God as is described in Exodus 30:23.

May God Bless you and us all

Brother Terry

Thank you for your post. What you bring up here is very extensive to answer properly. Before I go on let’s look at some points here where we can find common ground perhaps or where we disagree. Then we can go further here later.

RE: Myrrh……. Myrrh comes from the balsam plant and is a dried sap. It was known as the pain killer tree by the ancient nomads and was used as a medicine as well as all of the other original ingredients of the holy oil. This mostly dissolves when boiled into olive oil.

Calamus is known as herbal ecstasy. What few researchers here know is that Calamus was used in the Holy Oil after 2nd Temple. There is a king (I forget his name) who murdered all the Temple priests due to worship and the burning of incense on high hills. It is my opinion that this is where the Kaneh bosem was taken out. I can go further here but I would need to look at it again first. But there is little doubt about it based on Vendal Jones and early Jewish writings that the Temple was absent of flies. Calamus is deadly to flies. There is also little doubt that Kaneh Bosem was used in the original Holy Oil and it is cannabis. The ties to this oil being used by Jesus rather than the Calamus oil is based on a Gnostic writing that states the holy oil had the same power as the soma which is documented to contain cannabis as well as the word Kaneh Bosem it self. Certainly I believe that Jesus used the Holy Oil given by Moses. Certainly the Holy Oil would have been a powerful curing tool.

RE the art of apothecary……There is no text that I have ever found in my 30 years of research that details how to make the holy oil other than Exodus 30:23. Apothecary is defined as the art of the perfumer. In fact the Holy oil is described as perfume in Exodus. I purchased a book on ancient apothecary. Nearly all was boiling flowers or herbs into some sort of natural oil. There is chemistry there but we are looking at something that was going on 3000 years ago. This was during exodus from Egypt. These would have been, as found commodities in the desert or in nature as they traveled.

I have already written in previous posts with in this website how I think it should be made and I have made it in the past for my family and friends. It is a wonderful smelling oil. It is an honor for me to find out about all this and give it to the world. The incense is slightly different however.

RE the incense: I burn the holy oil in prayer on regular incense. However I have heavily studied this issue. The incense is also prophesied to be returned in Revelations. It was thought to send the prayers of the group directly before the mercy seat of God. I would make the incense but there is a mollusk shell that only comes from the Red Sea and is not available commercially. There are 8 ingredients implied in Exodus. The first are in the perfume. Then four more are indicated. It is my opinion that there was 2 percent cannabis here along with the holy oil. Do you remember in the Bible at Pentecost they were accused of being drunk? Perhaps red eyed was more accurate. By second temple the incense had 13 ingredients. That is documented.

Lets start with this.

Again thanks and cheers

Brother Terry

First, I must deeply thank you for your diligent, conscientious work, investment and concentration on this subject of the Holy Anointing Oil.

I believe you are very much ‘on point’ with your re-interpretation of Revelation around this model, and about the concealment of this truth from the world and it’s importance to our future and development.

I also totally agree that THC (the active chemical in Cannabis) was one of the constituents of the Holy Anointing Oil.

However, for several years, i have been an experiential chemist and psycho-active explorer, studying the effects of a wide range of psychoactive chemicals, most of which can be extracted from ordinary plants. My own investigation into the oil started between June the 6th-12th 2007, exactly 40 years or 1 generation after the 6-day war that re-established Israel with her biblical lands (or the fig tree putting forth branches). The timing of the connection shocked me due to it having been prophecied by Jesus in his Olivet Prophecy (Mark 13, Matthew 24, Luke 21).

The speculation that I would like to put forward for discussion and for further investigation is that the HAO actually contained several psychoactive, dermatologically transferable chemicals, extracted from plants and specifically designed to alter the consciousness of kings, prophets, etc to align them with the ‘Spirit of God’. In essence, to access a super-human, God-like state of consciousness where the authors of the Bible could channel divinely inspired writings of which it is composed.

The first clue to this is the use of the world ‘Apothecary’ in the text of Exodus 30. This is literally translated ‘chemist’ and indicates a hidden knowledge of alchemy and psychoactive preparation which has proliferated throughout history and must surely have been a tradition handed down in ancient cultures as it is in almost every other indigenous tribes and cultures around the world.

For more information on psychoactives and how to extract them from plants, I highly recommend ‘PiKHAL’ and ‘TiKHAL’ by Alexander Shulgin, who has recently re-invented, categorised, named and provided experiential reports about a wide range of Phenethylamines and Tryptamines.

Firstly, I must make a correction to the mention of ‘Trimethoxyamphetamine’ on your website. This can indeed be extracted from the aeserone in Calamus in a 3 step filtration process, but it is NOT ECSTASY.

Ecstasy is Methylenedioxy-N-Methylamphetamine (or MDMA) and can be extracted from the Sasafrass plant. Trimethoxyamphetamine from Calamus (or TMA-2 to give the proper abreviated chemical name) is a completely different compound with completely different effects that would be far more appropriate for a HAO ingredient. Sometimes called ‘Mescalamphetamine’, TMA-2 is the most potent form of phenethylamine or mescaline-type psycho-active with a clean, clear thinking amphetamine effect and no come-down or neurotoxicity as with Ecstasy or MDMA. I am perfectly happy to accept that Kaneh Bosm is not this substance, but even the mention of Calamus in the Greek makes me consider this worthy of further investigation as a possible ingredient at some time.

I believe thorough investigation of the word Myrrh also needs to be made - this word means ‘tree sap’ or ‘bitter’ in Hebrew - the current understanding of this word is of a perfume extracted from the Commiphora myrrha plant, which is sweet, immediately causing an etymological inconsistency. It’s also unsuitable for eating or drinking. It seems odd to me the Mark mentions this as a drinkable substance:

“And they brought him to the place called Gol’gotha (which means the place of a skull). And they offered him wine mingled with myrrh; but he did not take it.”

- Mark 15:22,23 RSV

I speculate that ancient Myrrh was actually formulated from Acacia tree sap, which is bitter and a similar red colour, mentioned as ‘Shittim wood’ all over the bible and contains a very important psycho-active called DMT.

DMT is the chemical that is released in our pineal glands upon death. I believe it assists our soul (or life energy) reconnecting with God (or the greater unity of everything).

I theorise that Myrrh may have been a mixture of DMT and possibly other enzyme inhibitors called Harmine or Hamaline (which can be extracted from Syrian Rue) which prevent DMT breakdown. Reading the book of Enoch confirms earlier uses of this Myrrh and Bedoin tribes in the middle east still use this with DMT.

Calamus - May have actually included calamus as you can extract a drug called TMA-2 from this. This is 10x stronger than Mescaline, a very clean psychoactive at the end of potency of Phenethlyamine scale.

Cinnamon - Contains a drug called MHDC, now being used to treat diabetics as it increases glucose absorbtion and provides a minor brain boost because of this.

Cassia - Comes from the word ‘Split’. Is unusual because it’s also Cinnamon, just a different type and it’s odd to put 2 types of the same drug in a psychoactive cocktail. I theorise this may actually be a drug called ‘Ibogaine’ extracted from the Taberanthe Iboga roots. It’s used by the Buiti tribe in Africa in their ‘Crack open the head’ ceremony’ - similar to the word split. Ibogaine is a powerful anti-addictive, with growing use in Ibogaine Clinics treating heroin and crack addicts, which would seem logical to include in a HAO. The function of Ibogaine is fascinating - using laymans terms; not only does it give you a visual trip that helps you learn, it also eliminates the brain neurons which have become addicted to the 4 worst types of drugs for you - alchohol, nicotine, amphetamines and opiates!

All you need is an solvent (Dimethyl Sulfoxide, or DMSO for instance) to carry these drugs dermatologically through the skin, and the oil would be complete.

These are just theories, I think it’s very hard to tell the exact source and correct ingredients for the oil due to the ‘heavens and earth’ changing over so much time, along with Jerome’s translations of the 3rd century having admitted errors copying the exact herbs and plants used.

I do believe this was some sort of psychoactive method of drug administration, and the precise ’spirit of God’ needs further investigation, and that it is one of our basic human rights involved with freedom of religion to research this. Over here, this is covered by Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights. I expect you yanks have something similar

I have actually re-created the oil to my recipe above, including THC and TMA-2 to the art of a chemist and know experientially that I’m on the right lines by combining threshold doses of the suggested ingredients and achieving elevated levels of consciousness through this that would be highly beneficial to a King, Prophet, or Anointed Elect… anyhow, I don’t intend to intrude on your beliefs, simply offer mine for consideration that we might broaden this field of research and look further and further into this crucial subject matter.

Once again I thank you for your hard work and diligent approach, i feel honoured to be called a brother in the beliefs we share.

Paul Paygan - descendant of The Mcduff Earl of Fyfe - last annointer to Robert the Bruce

Well I just heard in the news that a politician in the State of Florida is planing to introduce a bill to make yet another plant of God a Felony, (Salvia Divorium). Although I have never used salvia I have friends who grow it in their gardens. I suppose they will be confiscating these folks homes next. From Newt Gingrich trying to pass a bill to give the death penalty for marijuana, to a new disease the Florida University of Gainesville is trying to release a upon the planet which they say will only destroy marijuana, to yet another plant becoming a Felony. Wow!!!!!!!

Personally I pray for them at Judgement day when they have to justify all this to their maker. Oh I am sure they are all great Christians loved by family and friends. I am sure they all go to Church every Sunday (”The Lords Day” LOL). Yet they build more prisons. They break apart families, and separate children from their parents. It is the Anti-Christ which declares others Heretics, Burns people at the stake, and throws people in prison over plants given to us by God. These wonderful Christians who deny the very word of God which grants all seed bearing herbs as meat in Genesis, are not content in their own deceptions but must spread the lies of evil upon all.

Yes we are witnessing the unfolding of Revelations before our very eyes, which declares the return of the Seal of God and the Holy incense, and the anointing of 144,000 Jews as Christians with the Holy Oil. As for the rest, they are under one mystery, which is the Day of the Lord as spoken of in Revelation.

Cheers

Brother Terry

Wow I think you are among the first to understand my message.

May God Bless you and may God bless us all.

Cheers
Terry

Garry Minor
Columbus Cannabis Ministry
Columbus Indiana

The a priori pronouncement of “putting away childish things” is not demonstrated by puerile attempts to attach the Salvation of “Christ” Jesus to the diverse corruptions of prohibition and prohibitionists. Take the beam from your eye before you attempt to remove what you see as a mote in another’s.

FYI, G-d is not an advocate, nor does G-d advocate. The Holy Anointing Oil is after a pattern that G-d conveyed to Moses; that pattern is embodied throughout references to the Mosaic Covenant. Etymological evidence, confirmed by one of the most, if not the most reputable institutes of learning in the world, state that kaneh bosm = cannabis, linguistically. Furthermore, to designate the term “holy” in the negative - that is, in relation to the condition of “being free from” - denotes a superficial understanding of the connotation of belonging to, derived from, or associated with G-d. Associations with corruption are not entertained by the essence of “Holy” any more than the Seasons can, independently, change their order.

With all the cliche-coated vain struttings about falsehoods from the unregenerate, about continually leading and right direction …please, reflect on James, Eloy.

regenerate in the Lord
Rev. Bro. Wayne Phillips

It has been over a month since we have had a responce from Brother Christopher. I will assume this debate is over and I welcome an open discussion on any other topics at this point.

Cheers

Terry

Your knowlege of Linguistics is most welcome. I really dont have the time to go into a linguistic debate on this at the moment, as I have just started yet another business a couple months ago. Besides all that is posted on my website. It is nice to have someone like you in the discussion here. I thought your comments to Brother Eloy was great.

Regarding Christain History, especially early Christian History, It has been my hobby for over 30 years. This Film came about by trying to understand why Churches dont use the Holy Oil as described in Exodus. Although Orthodox Churches use Holy Oil in Baptism they all use Oil that is different than that described in Exodus. Then you have to understand the development of Baby Baptism, the development of Protestant Baptism, Gnostic teachings on baptism, Kaneh Bosem, and many other issues. It was quite a task, but one which I felt compelled to do. The Film and this website was the result.

Regarding Eloys thoughts that this is cane balsam, I just know this to be wrong. The bosem used here is fragrant. There are bibles out there that translate this as “Fragrant Cane”. If Bible translators translate the bosem here as fragrant then how can Eloy claim it is Balsam? I can understand how he comes to the conclusion but he is not correct here.

I just completed a debate on the Sabbath VS the Lords Day on my other blog. This is key to understanding how the Holy Oil of God was done away with, just in case you are interested in the read.

Thank you for your participation

I wish you well

God Bless

Brother Terry

I was enjoying our incense discussion from above. Sorry it has taken me so long to return to that subject.

To me the Burning Bush of Moses adds some significance to the matter of the incense and being baptized in the cloud.

It seems that a full Baptism would include a washing (Baptism with water), perhaps symbolic of the passage of the children of Israel through the Red(Reed) Sea, receiving of the Spirit by inhaling the smoke of the Burning Bush, which later may have played a significant part in the Incense of the Alter, and then a sealing of the Spirit by Chrismation using the Holy Anointing Oil.

Sorry if my testing of our Brother Eloy’s language and linguistic experience was overly obnoxious, but I wanted to get a better picture of what his level of understanding is.

It is one thing to be a polyglot (multilingual) and quite another to understand and engage in the science of linguistics. A linguist might only know one language but has training in complex linguistic concepts and terms, while some one who is not a linguist might have a good command of a dozen or more languages and still not have any grounding in the science of linguistics proper.

After 15 years of hard work, taking an Intro to Linguistics course, constantly wrestling with things like the Algonquian Indian verb, analogical change like we have in Kaneh-Bosem, and works by the likes of Otto Jesperson, Leonard Bloomfield, Carl Brockelmann, Joseph Greenberg and Einar Haugen just to name a couple I believe that I fall into both categories.

All of this being said I believe you Brother Terry to be far my superior in the realm of Church History and History in general. We all bring our own tools that the good Lord has helped us forge, and we all still have much to learn.

One louv, God Bless you and Cheers,
Joshua

Your wrong.

Terry

The idea that [a] cannabis was utilized in the Bible and [b] Biblical references to spices and incense and fragrant drugs - of which cannabis, in its’ various stages of growth, harvest, including when it is burnt, can lay claim to - is not new. Researchers have, for the past 150 years, been shedding substantial illumination on the matter.

You embrace and fuse some common misconceptions about cannabis onto the Bible; namely that it is, a) mind numbing b) a narcotic and c) an intoxicant; furthermore that “drugs are never sanctioned by God for his people in worship”. These misconception was and still are being perpetuated by “Reefer Madness” propaganda of cannabis prohibition crusaders who, in some instances, counted their numbers among clergy.
Cannabis is a euphoriant; that is, a psychoactive plant that tends to produce elation - an exhilarating psychological state of pride and optimism; an absence of depression; euphoria. This has been traditionally misunderstood. Cannabis also has wonderful medicinal properties. Cannabinoids* are intrinsically linked to the Endocannabinoid system.
ref: http://www.wordwebonline.com/search.pl?ww=5&w=endocannabinoid , and the thoughts of Dr. R. Melamede at: http://www.thc-ministry.net/cannabisinfo.htm .

“It is said that the Assyrians used hemp (marijuana) as incense in the seventh or eighth century before Christ and called it ‘Qunubu’, a term apparently borrowed from an old East Iranian word ‘Konaba’, the same as the Scythian name ‘cannabis’.” - Plants of the Gods : Origins of Hallucinogenic Use (First Ed.) - Richard Evans Schultes and Albert Hofmann, McGraw Hill, New York 1979 Hardcover ISBN:0-070-56089-7
[ref: http://www.csp.org/chrestomathy/plants_of.html ,

Regarding misinterpretation or wresting of Scripture:
Any misinterpretation or wresting of Scripture concerning the etymology in question originates in the Septuagint. The oldest Greek version of the Old Testament; said to have been translated from the Hebrew by Jewish scholars at the request of Ptolemy II, the son of Ptolemy I and king of Egypt (circa 309-247 BC). Although the tradition preserved in the pseudepigraphical Letter of Aristeas which connects the Septuagint translation of the Old Testament into Greek with his patronage is probably not historical. In Biblical studies, the Pseudepigrapha are Jewish religious works written c 200 BC to 200 AD, not all of which are literally pseudepigraphical. They are distinguished from the Deuterocanonica (Catholic and Orthodox) or Apocrypha (Protestant), the fourteen books that appear in the Septuagint and Vulgate but not in the Hebrew Bible or in Protestant Bibles.

For more on Ptolemy II see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemy_II_Philadelphus

Given the esteem & relationship the Jewish people had/have for/with the Tanach, ie. its’ Sacredness, it is highly unlikely that the Jewish scribes would have provided in the Septuagint a correct or accurate list of ingredients, considering Exodus 30:37-38 states: “And as for the perfume which thou shalt make, ye shall not make to yourselves according to the composition thereof: it shall be unto thee holy for the LORD. Whosoever shall make like unto that, to smell thereto, shall even be cut off from his people.”

If ostracism and worse is the promise to interlopers within, by what logic or line-of-reason would make it even conceivable for the sacred formulation thereof to be made available by Jewish scholars to the Hellenic?

Articles on hemp from the Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1856, & 1910-1911 retrospectively best illustrate, as cogent evidence, the etymology of the word cannabis [cannabis sativa]/the true hemp. Both articles are referenced at http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/1856hemp.htm & http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/1911hemp.htm .

THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITANNICA, OR DICTIONARY OF ARTS, SCIENCES, AND GENERAL LITERATURE. EIGHTH EDITION. WITH EXTENSIVE IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONS; AND NUMEROUS ENGRAVINGS. VOLUME XI, LITTLE, BROWN, AND CO., BOSTON, U.S. MDCCLVI states,

“The true hemp (_Cannabis sativa_) has been recognised as a useful plant from a very early period, although probably not of the same antiquity as flax. Herodotus is the first writer who mentions it (iv. 74), but he speaks of it in a manner which shows it must have been then well-known, for he describes the hempen garments made by the Thracians as being equal to linen (flax cloth) in fineness. Its use for making cordage is noted as early as 200 years B.C. by Moschion, who mentions that a large ship, the “syracusia,” built by Hiero II, was rigged with ropes made from hemp brought from the Rhone. The original country of the hemp-plant is not positively known, but it is generally believed to have been the mountainous districts in the extreme north of India, whence it spread westward through Europe, and southward through the peninsula of India. Its cultivation in each direction had in all probability a different object; for it is found to produce under tropical culture an inferior fibre, and a powerfully intoxicating drug, but in cold and temperate climates it yields an abundance of strong fibres in great perfection for textile purposes, and loses its narcotic qualities. The similarity of its name in various languages is a strong indication that it has taken the course here indicated; thus, in the Sanscrit it is called goni_, _sana_, or _shanapu_; Persic, _canna_; Arabic, _kanneh_ or _kinnub; Greek, kannabis_; Latin, _cannabis_; Italian, _canapa_; French, _chanvre_ or _chanbre_; Danish, _kamp_ or _kennep_; Lettish and Lithuanian, _kannapes_; Slavonic, _konopi_; Erse, _canaib_; Scaninavian, _hampr_; Swedish, _hampa_; German, _hauf_; Anglo-Saxon, _haenep_; and English, _hemp_. In India other names are applied, indicative of its intoxicating or narcotic powers; thus, according to Dr Royle, it is called the “increaser of pleasure,” the “exciter of desire,” the “cementer of friendship,” the “causer of the reeling gait,” the “laughter mover,” &c.; and he also suggests that it may have been the _nepenthes_ (”assuager of grief”) of Homer, given by Helen to Telemachus.”

The following article on hemp, from Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th ed. (1910-1911) states, “Wild hemp still grows on the banks of the lower Ural, and the Volga, near the Caspian Sea. It extends to Persia, the Altai range and northern and western China. The authors of the _Pharmacographia_ say:—“It is found in Kashmir and in the Him\’alaya, growing 10 to 12 ft. high, and thriving vigorously at an elevation of 6000 to 10,000 ft.'’ Wild hemp is, however, of very little use as a fibre producer, although a drug is obtained from it.

It would appear that the native country of the hemp plant is in some part of temperate Asia, probably near the Caspian Sea. It spread westward throughout Europe, and southward through the Indian peninsula.

The names given to the plant and to its products in different countries are of interest in connexion with the utilization of the fibre and resin. In Sans. it is called _goni_, _sana_, _shanapu_, _banga_ and _ganjika_; in Bengali, _ganga_; Pers. _bang_ and _canna_; Arab. _kinnub_ or _cannub_; Gr. _kannabis_; Lat. _cannabis_; Ital. _canappa_; Fr. _chanvre_; Span. _c\’a\~namo_; Portuguese, _c\’anamo_; Russ. _kon\’opel_; Lettish and Lithuanian, _kannapes_; Slav. _konopi_; Erse, _canaib_ and _canab_, A. Sax. _hoenep_; Dutch, _hennep_; Ger. _Hanf_; Eng. _hemp_; Danish and Norwegian, _hamp_; Icelandic, _hampr_; and in Swed. _hampa_. The English word _canvas_ sufficiently reveals its derivation from _cannabis_. ” /End

Then as the Roman Empire assimilated the Judeo-Christian tradition, Rome redefined itself in the guise of the Western Church of Catholic Rome …

Bless you,
Rev. Bro. Wayne Phillips,
the Assembly of the Church of the Universe

“The Christian Religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.”
Thomas Paine

Cheers

Terry

To Eloy,

I agree with Sula Benet on this issue, in Early Diffusion and Folk Uses of Hemp. There is a reprint of this in Cannabis and Culture ISBN:90-279-7669-4. On page 44, she states, “The sacred character of hemp in biblical times is evident from Exodus 30:23, where Moses was instructed by God to anoint the meeting tent and all of its furnishings with specially prepared oil, containing hemp.”

On page 41 Sula Benet writes, : In the course of time, the two words kaneh and bosem were fused into one , kanabos or kannabus known to us from the Mishna.

According to the Webster’s New World Hebrew Dictionary, page 607 the Hebrew for hemp is kanabos.

Your welcome to believe anything you want but it was not Cane Balsam it was kanabos. “Fragrant Cane”

I would also like to point to Genesis 1:29 for your other comments.

To Right Reverend Gregory Karl Davis,

Well there is the art of Apothacary question. I purchased a book on ancient apothacary and most was flowers and natural spices boiled into oil.
I have never found anything on how the ancient Hebrews did it. I suppose that question will be debated in the future. I can only tell you how I made it, which I did previously above.

Cheers All
Brother Terry

One louv,
Joshua

Although Cannabis Sativa L. is Latin, it is certainly not an ancient name nor has the root of the word Cannabis been identified as Latin by any etymological dictionary that I am aware of ( I have many on my shelves).
The name Cannabis Sativa L. was assigned to the plant in the seventeen hundreds by the Swede, Carl Linneaeus, and the L. actualy stands for his last name.

I am familiar with The recitation of the first four words of the twenty second Psalm of David, by Jesus or Yeshua at his crucifixion. Do you presume that I have no idea what the name Eloy means?

As far as the so called “mind numbing” or “dangerous” effects of Cannabis, I still do not know why you would choose to speak so ill of another one of God’s creatures without reputable evidence.

One louv,
Joshua

My root is Hebrew. I do not struggle writing English. I simply do not adhere to manmade rules for English, because the original words are from God and given to man. As for combining plurals with singulars and vice versa, I am at liberty to do this freqently. When I say “man”, I may be conveying a plural as in meaning “mankind” which includes men, children, and women in this one word, even though “man” is considered singular by many unregenerates.

As for the misinterpretation of the two separate hebrew words cane balsam in Exodus 30:23 to wrongly mean cannabis, better known as marijuana, this is called wresting or forcing scripture in order to convey something that is not presented. This common error can be seen simply by comparing the mistranslated word with the context in which it is found. Cannabis sativa is the latin botanical name for marijuana, and God does not use the latin botanical names for the other listed ingredients in Exodus chapter 30, so he did not use a latin botanical name for cane balsam in Exodus 30:23. And although this is two separate words “cane” “balsam” which may be a descriptive adjective for the cane, this still does not justify combining the two distinct words into a one word in order to make a completely different word. This cane balsam, the literal translation, I believe is descriptive of the type of cane. It is balsamic cane, or balsam scented cane. I believe this to be the citronella (botanical: Cymbopogon nardus) commonly found in the Middle East, and this cane is not a mind numbing drug as marijuana is. My holy God does not advocate any mind numbing drugs in his worship service. Other cultures and other religions do so, but not true Christianity, which is the only acceptable worship to Christ.

Sister Lydia, there is a booklet that was written by Brother Jeff Brown of the Ethiopan Zion Coptic Church called Marijuana and the Bible. It is posted online, and should be easy to find on a google or yahoo search. Near the end of the piece there is some talk of various religions using Cannabis as a sacrament.

Dr. Timothy Leary fought the first religious cannabis case under Hinduism and lost in 5th Circuit in 1967. India has exemption to International Laws and treaties to make the religious drink bhang from Cannabis leaves. NORML v. DEA, 559 F.2d 735, (DC Cir. 1997) see page 753 for exemption from prohibition for marijuana leaves to make Indian “national drink”.

Native Americans have probably used it since the dawn of time as well. The tribe name Tuscarora of the Iriquois Six Nation confederacy may mean “hemp gatherers” See Word Dance; The Language of Native American Culture by Carl Waldman 1994 pg. 245. The Havasupai and the Yurok have both used the plant historically as well. The Yurok tribe in California actualy lost a religious case in the early 90’s under the Leary line of cases.

I don’t want to get too far off topic here but there is much information on different religions at the two thc-ministry forums.

I was enjoy reading your research Brother ‘Greg’, thanks for posting that stuff.

One louv,
Joshua